Plato Shrugs: ‘Ideology Post Trump: Where Do We Go From Here?’

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Source:Plato Shrugs– I wish this was fake news.

Source:The New Democrat 

“Ideological turmoil in America has reached unprecedented heights. With conservatives falling into the unfalsifiable throws of populism and Liberals fetishizing 1960 solutions to 2020 problems, both appear lost in moving through the 21st century. What comes after Trump for the populist? What comes after liberals fail yet again to implement a child’s imitation of the Great Society?”

You can read the rest at Plato Shrugs

“In an interview that aired July 19, “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace asked President Trump about the coronavirus, upcoming elections and civil unrest in the United States. Read more at:The Washington Post.”

Trump's Fox News interview, in 4 minutes

Source:The Washington Post– President Donald Trump’s Chris Wallace interview.

From The Washington Post

At severe risk of disagreeing with Plato Shrugs here: we’re not talking about what this person calls Liberals on the Left and Conservatives on the Right, when we’re talking about the current political situation in America under Donald Trump. What we have are the children (what some people call fringes) of both the Democratic Party and Republican Party now thinking that they not only belong at the adult table, but that they should own it.

In 2016 the children of the Republican Party thanks to Donald Trump, took over the Republican Party and basically run that party. Politicos that I call children are not very conservative at all: anyone who runs on blowing up the system and taking down the establishment, can’t be very conservative at all, especially being a Conservative means you believe in conserving. Not tearing up the status quo and starting from scratch.

What Christian-Nationalists have done in the Republican Party is to take it over. The Republican Party was once the Grand Ole Party that true Conservatives believe in conserving, a party that was built by Abraham Lincoln, a party of individual freedom, opportunity for all, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense that opposes all forms of authoritarianism, (not just Socialists and Communists) that was about personal responsibility, a party that was led by Calvin Coolidge, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush.

Today the Republican Party a party that doesn’t even believe in a republic and republicanism is now a party that says: “We don’t care about moral values, personal responsibility, integrity, honesty, character, and fiscal conservatism, just as long as he’s appointing the right judges, keeping our taxes down, and fighting our cultural war.” Which is the attitude that anywhere between 80-90% of the Republican Party now has about their dear leader Donald J. Trump.

I mean anyone can call themself anything that they want: someone could call themself a Martian or a giraffe, but if that person look humanoid and doesn’t own a spaceship, speaks perfect English, why would you take that person seriously, especially if you’re intelligent, sane, and sober, and know that there’s no such thing as Martians.

Unless someone’s neck is about 4 feet long and that have hair all over the body and they speak a human language, why would you take the person who calls themself a giraffe seriously.

It’s the same thing with being a Conservative: if you’re going to be a Conservative, you have to believe in conserving. And in a political sense that means conserving values like honesty, integrity, strong character, fiscal responsibility, limited government, the U.S. Constitution, individual freedom, all conservative values that Donald Trump and his supporters don’t believe in.

As far as the Democratic Party: they have their children or adult day care center (what the mainstream media would call a fringe or the Far-Left) people who belong in the Green Party, and in some cases should be members of the Democratic Socialists of America, and the far fringe of this movement should even be members of Communist Party USA. (Or be committed to the nearest mental institutions)

Some of the most illiberal (not liberal) and regressive (not progressive) people in America are people who call themselves Liberals and Progressives, because these folks don’t believe in liberal and progressive values like liberal democracy and even limited government, personal freedom and free speech, pluralism.

Political labels mean nothing if the people don’t believe in the values that their self-described political label is about. An illiberal person calling themself a Liberal, is like a doctor calling themself a lawyer, even though they don’t have a law degree. To be a Conservative, you have to believe in conservative values, like the values that I mentioned before. Otherwise you’re just someone who calls yourself a Conservative.

As far as where America goes post-Donald Trump, which I like perhaps hundreds of millions of other Americans hope is just months way: lets says Joe Biden wins, Democrats not only hold the House but add to their majority and they win back the Senate, giving a President Biden a united Democratic Congress. I believe the Republican Party will have a great opportunity there.

The GOP establishment can come back from their four year vacation and retake the Republican Party and argue that Trumpism has failed both politically and governmentally and it’s time for the Republican Party to come back to life and return to the part of Reagan, Goldwater, and Eisenhower. A party of Conservative-Libertarians and Progressive Republicans (yes, Progressive Republicans) that has to hold Joe Biden and the Democratic Party and accountable and prevent a socialist takeover of America. Joe Biden, is obviously not a Socialist, but his Far-Left will be even moral vocal in his presidency.

But what I think will happen instead is similar to what happen when Barack Obama became President. And the Republican Party will be run by their Far-Right and perhaps try to pretend that Donald Trump was never even President, but hold onto to Trumpism with their dear lives and try to blame everything in the world on Joe Biden and Congressional Democrats and try to use that to win back the House or Senate, if not both chambers in 2022.

About Erik Schneider

I use the American Liberal photo as the cover photo for this blog, because that’s exactly what I am. And no, not in the stereotypical, sort of pop culture sense of what an American Liberal is supposed to be. But someone who represents what American liberalism, as well as European liberalism, and perhaps the liberalism of the rest of the world outside of the United States. Liberals are people who believe in defense of liberal democracy, as well as the preservation of liberal democracy. And of course we also believe in liberal democracy with all the individual rights, and other liberal values that come from liberal democracy, the liberal democratic form of government, like equal opportunity, equal rights, equal justice, property rights, individual freedom and freedom of choice for everybody, as well as limited but responsible government, and fiscal responsibility
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